We suspect that – IF – the Acura ADX is a crossover, it may be all-electric. It may share the new Acura styling cures as well – like this concept MDX. (Image: Acura)
Recently, the trademark for the (Acura) ADX name was filed by Honda at the United States Patent and Trademark Office
The Acura ADX may be coming your way soon, but we’re unsure what that name actually represents. If you look at the Acura-speak nomenclature for their crossovers, RDX and MDX; the “DX” part of the name is aimed at crossovers. Their sedans, the TLX and ILX are obviously different. On top of that, we know that Honda/Acura are building EV crossovers, and that people want EV crossovers.
We also know that Honda and Acura have a partnership with General Motors to use their Ultium powertrain/battery motivator to build their two all-electric crossovers/SUVs. If you look at the most popular EV vehicles currently sold in the United States, the top sellers are dominated by EV crossovers. That’s why we expect the Acura ADX to be an EV.
There’s more: Recently, Honda teased their own model, called the Prologue. We suspect that the Acura ADX may be the all-electric companion.
This is the Honda e SUV concept, which is believed to be related to the upcoming Honda Prologue EV. (Image: Honda)
Given the Ultium’s skateboard design, and the fact that production vehicles with this platform are beginning to be produced, we suspect that borth Honda and Acura will have test vehicles on the road very soon. It’s reasonable to assume that the Acura ADX – IF – it’s the EV crossover we suspect it is, will be higher performing than its Honda brethren.
Now, there is another possibly regarding the Acura ADX underpinnings: it could be based on the upcoming Honda HRV, which has a new platform. If that’s the case, it will represent the smallest crossover in Acura’s fleet – and it may be a hybrid.
The Honda N-Van Compo is a JDM overlander (Images: Honda)
White House Camper’s Honda N-Van Compo is 133.7 inches long, which is nearly 20-inches shorter than a Mini 2-Door, but it has SO much potential!
The Honda N-Van Compo will be on display at the 2022 Tokyo Auto Salon, along with many other concepts. While this concept, (which has been seen at other events) caught our attention with these amazing images. I mean, what a cool idea for such a small vehicle.
Considering the size of the vehicle, it’s an impressive display of what you can create with a limited amount of space. The regular Honda N-Van debuted a.few years back and is a fairly simple Kei car (abbreviated for the word keijidosha – meaning l”ight vehicle”). Currently, a Kei car (which is strictly built for the Japanese domestic market) has a max displacement at 660cc. Back in the 1940’s, Kei car started out with anemic 100cc scooter engines. Some were even two-stroke, but all these tiny cars and trucks had to measure within a tiny box.
In the old days, they measured 9.2-feet long, and 3.3-ft wide. Now they’ve grown to a staggering 11.2-ft long and 4.9-ft wide. It’s still smaller than the aforementioned Mini Cooper Two-door footprint, by a huge margin. Still, with the gas tank placed under the driver’s seat, and the engine pushed as far forward as possible, there’s tons of space. Building upward, and with nothing encumbering the floor, the N Box can hold four adults comfortably, or tons of gear. All of the seats can fold completely flat into the floor, making enough room for a motorcycle. No kidding.
Check out THIS Kei car 4×4 van!!!
The Honda N-Box comes with a 52 horsepower three-cylinder that is connected to the front wheels via a six-speed manual transmission. This van weighs less than 2,700-lbs, before the additional camping gear.
What is the White House Camper’s Honda N-Van Compo?
Using a massive amount of clever packaging and storage ideas, the Honda N-Van Compo is capable of sleeping a small family overnight. By use of inflatable mattresses, a expanding rooftop, and an add-on room – this rig is very utilitarian. It has a small cooler/fridge, microwave, sink, storage, folding awning and storage for lots of gear.
There are a few options for sleeping arrangements depending on the layout. You can build one for a single, or multipole sleepers. There are also a few layouts for storage and appliance locations as well. The most notable and noticeable addition is the pop-up roof. With the upper panel recessed, and roof extended, standing space expands to about six-feet.
Sadly, new Kei vehicles are not permitted or sold in the United States. For the most part, you have to wait 25 years to import them. Even so, state and city regulations vari for these runabouts in the U.S., so imports can be an issue in general. It’s a real shame because these vehicles sell (before the camping upgrades) for around $20,000+ U.S.
I know there’s a market here for something like this. Especially something so utilitarian and ready for light overlanding – with such a low entry price. Yes, I know – it’s not up to DOT requirements and blah, blah, blah… I would still rock this little guy with pride.
The 2022 Toyota GR Supra A91-CF Carbon Fiber is a factory added body-kit that adds wheels, interior and other goodies – for a steep price.
If you add the $1,025 destination charge to the $64,305 price tag, the 2022 Toyota GR Supra A91-CF Carbon Fiber comes to $65,330 – before any potential dealership markups. That makes it the most expensive Supra in the lineup; especially true when you can get a four-cylinder for about $45,000. For that money, you get flat-black painted 19-inch wheels and a unique interior. You also get carbon fiber components like a front splitter, spoiler, and rocker panels.
This aero kit isn’t just for looks. Its functional purpose improves downforce and stability during both everyday drives and hot laps around the local track. Additionally, unique 19-inch wheels sport a matte-black texture that complement A91-CF Edition’s available matte-gray Phantom paint color – Absolute Zero White and Nitro Yellow round-out the color choices.
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Also, according to Toyota, you get a complimentary, one-year membership to the National Auto Sport Association. This gives you a High-Performance Driving Event with expert instruction. Expect to see this special trim at dealerships in fall 2022.
What about the rest of the 2022 Toyota Supra lineup (prices are before a $1,025 destination charge)?
Starting at $44,315, the turbocharged, four-cylinder Supra comes in one trim level, and it represents the absolute base model for Supra. It has a turbocharged 255 hp I4 that makes 295 lb-ft of torque. For context, a fully loaded 2022 GR86 Premium AT peaks at about $33,000. It makes 228 hp and 184 lb-ft of torque through an H4.
A base six-cylinder model costs $52,665 and the Premium trim starts at $55,815. This powertrain gives you 382 hp and 368 lb-ft of torque. Currently, all Supras come standard with a nine-speed automatic transmission.
Options include a 12-speaker JBL Audio sound system, wireless Apple CarPlay, adaptive cruise control (ACC), a navigation system, blind-spot monitoring system, and a Driver’s Assist Package.
Debuting at the 2022 Tokyo Auto Salon, Kuhl Racing has previewed the widebody kits for the newest-generation Toyota GR86 and Subaru BRZ.
Granted, Kuhl Racing is only showing mock-ups and computer renderings, these designs tease a kit that significantly alters the way the GR86 and BRZ look. There will be two separate kits, and each one appears to dramatically alter the front-end appearance. The front-end intake is massive, as is the chin spoiler.
If you look at the standard wheels hidden inside those wheel arches, you get an idea of what they have in mind. The vehicle in this photo is the mockup for the BRZ.
In this computer-aided design rendering (CAD), you get an idea of what they have in mind. The sheer width difference is worth noting.
Moving to the side, Kuhl Racing added flared wheel arches and extended side skirts. Both appear to aid aerodynamic and larger tire needs as well. There are some dramatic changes in the rear as well. The rear fascia and massive (fixed) rear spoiler stand out quite a bit.
Once again, we see a mockup based on the Subaru BRZ. We expect to see both kits looking similar.
We have yet to hear about pricing or when the kits will be available. On top of that, we have no figures on performance gains and losses as well.
The 2022 Tokyo Auto Salon will begin on Friday, January 14, and end on Sunday – January 16, 2022. You can get additional information on the show (here). Stay tuned for more updates about vehicles and products we expect to see at the show.
Sure, he’s not exactly a huge fan of often unnecessary body kits, but our man Paul digs the new GR86. Check out the video below and find out what the former Stig thinks of the 2022 Toyota GR86!
Will we see an electric Hyundai Santa Cruz? (image: TFLcar)
In this week’s Ask Nathan:
Rumor has it that there will be a electric Hyundai Santa Cruz.
We keep hearing about Chinese cars in the USA, but where are they?
You are providing misinformation about the Honda Passport off-road.
The first question comes from a reader who hears that there may be an electric Hyundai Santa Cruz.
Q: (via Twitter @NathanAdlen) Saw a post that HMA will build a electric Hyundai Santa Cruz.
I think Ford took Hyundai by surprise with their hybrid Maverick and I saw a report about a electric Hyundai Santa Cruz coming soon. You like both trucks right? I could see the sincerity of your back and forth. I think Hyundai needs to buckle down and build more innovative and maybe a cheaper version.
Groovis
A: Yea, I can see something like this happening – but I think a hybrid (or PHEV) will come first.
I’ll tell ya, it’s a hell of a little platform. The Hyundai-Kia N platform underpins everything from the Sonata, K5, Santa Fe – and more. This same platform underpins the Santa Cruz, which means that powertrain sharing is possible. That means: it could use a similar setup to the 2022 Hyundai Tucson Plug In Hybrid Electric Vehicle (PHEV). Many of the internal components on the Hyundai Santa Cruz are shared with the Tucson – so a move towards a small PHEV pickup seems logical.
If Hyundai could pull this off, at a reasonable price, they would undercut many automakers. No one is producing a PHEV pickup truck of any size – yet.
Now, Hyundai certainly builds (and will be building) several all-electric vehicles. I feel that they have the bandwidth to build EV, PHEV and non-electrified versions of most of their vehicles. Still, I think that a dedicated electric Hyundai Santa Cruz may take time.
Here’s a quote from an insider about what could power an electric Hyundai Santa Cruz
“The top Korean automaker will use the existing Santa Cruz platform with batteries added to manufacture the pickup’s electric version, instead of using Hyundai’s dedicated EV platform, E-GMP, the sources said.”
I truly like the Santa Cruz, and I am looking forward to testing the lower-level model – which will (hopefully) be soon!
— N
The next question revolves around China – which many of us were expecting to sell cars in the U.S. by now. Will they ever?
Could new tariffs against China affect Chinese companies looking to launch new models in the U.S.? [Photo: GAC]
Q: Hi Nathan! I sent you a message back in 2018 about Chines cars in the United States and you answered it! Thank you!
I know you spent some time in China and that you still think about people who don’t have a ton of money to spend on cars, Unlike many of the people you guys work with. I am thankful for guys like you who look out for the guys who don’t make six digits and still want a new car.
Nathan. I am so sick of people telling me to get a used car every time I ask about a cheap car like the Toyota Yaris or Mitsubishi Mirage. I own a 2017 Mirage and it has given me ZERO problems. Tommy may make fun of Mitsubishi but I have had nothing but good experiences. Yes I know they are a little rough and cheap for folks who are used to driving expensive cars. But mine is solid with over 70 thousand miles!
Anyway I wanted to know if you still think we will see Chinese cars coming to the United States? I wonder if they will offer a less expensive electric car if they do come? I’m so sick of American dealers and car builders screwing hard working guys with over priced cars! Even if they build a cheap car. So many dealers crank up the prices it’s impossible to buy!
I hope the Chinese come and sell inexpensive electric cars so people like me who only make $40,000 per year can afford one! As I said. I am grateful that guys like you are looking out for people like me who are not in a position to get expensive cars. Thanks Nathan!
BillyJo
A: Thanks amigo!
In Tommy’s defense, he was disgruntled about the quality of the Outlander Sport, given its price point. Other inexpensive crossovers in its class tend to be higher quality. Still, I am thrilled you’re happy with your little Mirage!
As for the Chinese entering our market; I believe it is still happening, but in a less obvious way. Some Chinese companies are still investigating direct sales here. Others, like Geely, may use their connections to other automakers to sell their products here.
Keep in mind: many products sold in the United States already have a ton of Chinese components in them. Others, like Volvo, are owned by Geely – but maintain their own identity. Geely, which is one of the biggest automakers in China, is still eyeballing the U.S. with their own products. A recent insider rumor (reported by Carscoops) points at Geely considering a joint venture with Renault.
Chinese goods are getting hammered by various penalties during this lengthy trade battle. Simply selling a car in our market would be problematic. In the past, Chinese automakers (among others) were hopeful that our trade policies would ease a bit. That hasn’t happened. As such, potential exporters have had to find unique solutions.
Renault is still a partner of Nissan, which could surreptitiously incorporate platforms and drivetrains from Geely. A more likely avenue may South Korea’s free-trade agreement with the United States. If Geely/Renault produced vehicles there, they could sell them here without the “chicken tax” and other penalties.
I still say that any product brought here that forces automakers to build/sell less expensive vehicles, is a welcome sight. Competition forces everyone to “up” their game, and it’s beneficial to the consumer.
— N
The last question/statements comes from a few viewers who were displeased with our coverage of the 2022 Honda Passport TrailSport.
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(Paraphrased – via: YouTube) Does anyone actually buy into this Honda Passport fake excitement? These are not dirt-worthy. Come on Nathan, your TFL fans are not stupid, stop acting like we are. – Randy S
How much did Honda pay you to say this thing isn’t a total piece of junk? Is it better than a 4Runner? Yea I think not! – Bob B
Trail worthy…oh please! – CEBEDH
What Honda needs is a proper body on frame SUV/Truck. Toyota, Nissan has plenty of options. Why can’t Honda do the same? – Vadim
Saying this thing can go off road is a huge pile of misinformation guys! My Camry can drive these trails better! It (the Passport) barely can move through a parking lot covered in gravel! – Tim
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A: First: a huge majority of viewers were pleased with the 2022 Honda Passport TrailSport’s performance.
I stand by everything I said, both good and bad. Check out our detailed off-road review. In terms of these and a few other comments, let me point out a few things:
Fake excitement? Nope – I had a great time in the dirt with this crossover. It went up every trail I attempted, despite mediocre tires and ride-height. I told my viewers exactly what I was thinking and feeling – I always do.
Honda paid for transportation, food and lodging. As for my testimony? Why would I complain about features if an automaker paid me? Every time I say an automaker did something well, a fanboy (of another brand) will say something snarky like “how much did —– pay you?” If that were the case, I would be a millionaire by now. I’m not.
A Honda with a truck frame? No way, Honda isn’t aiming at the Jeep Wrangler or Toyota 4Runner. Not even close. Honda is simply saying that a comfy commuter/family hauler can do light off-roading. A Wrangler or 4Runner would destroy most crossovers like the Passport in the rough. Still, on the street – where most people spend 95% of their time, the Honda Passport is a much more logical day-to-day ride.
I would LOVE to see a video of your Camry drive off-road in Borrego Springs. Aside from the dirt trails in the area, I highly recommend Truckhaven 4×4 Training Area in Ocotillo Wells, California. We did a bunch of testing there, and I can’t wait to see your Camry take on these trails and obstacles. Yep, send your video to us when you’re finished. I’m sure it will be entertaining.
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All in all, I was pleased with the 2022 Honda Passport TrailSport’s overall capability. Sure, it needs some additions to make it more off-road-worthy, but it’s a pretty damn good compromise.
Patrick, a Retired Naval Chief from Florida put over 136,000 miles on his 2016 Subaru Outback 2.5i Premium, and he sent us his review.
Recently, our very own Andre Smirnov did a long-term review on his Subaru Outback – as it was about to be sold. While it wasn’t perfect, he was pretty pleased with the vehicle’s economy, drivability, and security. He posted his first “Likes and Dislikes” review back in 2017. You can read it (here). His recent, and final video review is located at the end of this post.
We appreciate these viewer reviews, especially because we don’t have access to many Subarus. Perhaps, one day, their PR will work with us. Until then, we’ll keep buying, borrowing, and renting Subaru vehicles – to give you our unbiased perspective.
As for Patrick, he gave us a nice overview of his experiences with his 2016 Subaru Outback 2.5i:
TFL,
I saw y’alls video on a long-term update on your 2015 Outback that you have just sold and wanted to share my long-term review. I ordered mine in Aug 2015 with some extra safety features and took delivery in late Sept 2015.
Today I just went over 136,001 miles here in Jacksonville FL. It’s been a very reliable vehicle and I have put many miles on it exploring 2 National forests ( The Ocala and The Osceola) as well as many FL State forests and never got stuck where others often did. The only recurring issue that I have had is the A/C blower fan motor behind the glove box has died about 5 times but it is used daily here with all of the heat and humidity.
The driver’s door window regulator has started to work intermittently. Most recently I believe my driver’s side windshield seal has begun to fail… I suspect this is due to a puddle in the driver’s floorboard and water dripping from under the driver’s side dashboard. This mainly happens during very heavy rains while parked. Haven’t had this issue at the car wash or while driving while it’s raining.
I did upgrade to Bilstein B6 shock with stock height King Springs which really help with the ride when aired down for washed-out rutted forest service roads and trails.
Overall I have solidified my reasoning for buying this Outback because at the time I ordered it the Outback gave me more for my money than any other vehicle close to it in the segment. As Andre stated in his video, I too would purchase again!! Looking to drive this Outback until it dies..lol….and my words come from a Retired Navy Chief.
Thank y’all for all that you do keeping us all informed and up to date!! Merry Christmas and Happy 2022.
It looks like we’re just a few weeks away from more information on the new Honda Civic Type R. (Images: Honda)
The first chance to see the new Honda Civic Type R up close is just a few weeks away.
It’s come in stages, but the eleventh-generation Honda Civic’s rollout is nearly complete as the Type R Prototype is almost ready to debut. It’s coming to Tokyo Auto Salon from January 14-16, 2022, but we will still have to wait until later on in the year to see the final production model.
That said, Honda and Acura’s “prototype” models tend to stick fairly close to the production versions, with a few minor tweaks along the way. The car we’ll see in Tokyo in a few weeks, then, should give a strong (if not 100% final) hint at what to expect for the next iteration of the automaker’s hot hatch.
The way Honda announced the date in their official statement, the new Honda Civic Type R Prototype will still carry this camouflage at January’s event. However, the company says the folks who check out the car during TAS will be treated to an “action-packed test driving video”, wherein they can go behind the scenes with the team’s engineers to get a better sense of how the next-gen model was developed.
At the moment, we don’t have any official specs, and can only make educated guesses based on the outgoing 10th-gen’s performance. Honda should stick with a 2.0-liter turbocharged engine for this new model, as well as a 6-speed manual transmission. Whether they’ll include an automatic (dual-clutch) this time around and any more power — mind you, the Civic Si’s output actually went down 5 horsepower, according to Honda’s official specs — remains to be seen.
The Tesla Model S Plaid packs headline-grabbing figures, but what is it like to actually live with? (Image: Tesla)
If you’re going to move into an EV, you might as well go all out, right?
Not that long ago, looking at the pinnacle of modern performance meant looking at a great big V8 or V12, preferably with forced induction to make mind-blowing horsepower and torque. That’s not strictly the case anymore as electric performance cars hit the scene, like the Tesla Model S Plaid.
The specs look absolutely amazing on paper. 1,020 peak horsepower, a 1.99-second 0-60 time, and a top speed nearing 200 mph (mind you, Tesla notes you’ll need some hardware upgrades to hit that top speed). In the real world, those are the sort of figures that put many supercars to shame, and we’re talking about a usable, everyday four-door sedan. But just how usable is it on a daily basis? In this episode of Dude, I Love (Or Hate) My Ride, Chris shows us around his brand new Tesla Model S Plaid and its steering yoke to show just what it’s like to drive and live with.
